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Town vs Instinct vs GrokBot | Why the AI Assistant Market Is Not a Bubble

07.09.2026
Published: 07.09.2026 Category: Startups and entrepreneurship

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Jean-Denis "JD" Grèze is the Co-Founder and CEO of Town, the AI work assistant reportedly in talks to raise funding at a $1BN valuation. Before founding Town, JD spent seven years as CTO of Plaid. Before Plaid, he was Director of Engineering at Dropbox. He is also a prolific angel investor backing companies including Modal, BaseTen, Merge and NexHealth. ----------------------------------------------- Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:08 - Why Town Pivoted From AI Tax to AI Assistants 04:09 - Can Town Survive Google, Apple and OpenAI? 06:14 - Why AI Assistants Could Have Network Effects 08:48 - Will Everyone Have One AI Agent or Many? 11:01 - Will We Trust AI Agents With Our Private Data? 17:16 - Are Goal-Seeking AI Agents a Feature or a Bug? 19:30 - How Town Chooses Between OpenAI, Anthropic and Open Models 22:33 - Can AI Assistant Economics Ever Reach SaaS Margins? 25:05 - Open Models vs Frontier Models: Who Gets the Workloads? 29:56 - How Should VCs Invest in the AI Assistant Race? 33:45 - Why AI Startups Can No Longer Outrun Their Competitors 39:31 - Why Apple Could Lose the AI Assistant Race 41:50 - Are AI Agents Creating a Cybersecurity Time Bomb? 43:42 - Why Token Maxing Is the Wrong AI Metric 47:46 - Consumer vs Enterprise AI: Where Does the Bigger Business Get Built? 50:06 - Is ElevenLabs Worth $22BN? 51:57 - The Biggest Risk to AI Assistant Margins 01:00:01 - Is the AI Assistant Hype Justified? 01:03:41 - Quick-Fire Round ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZTtgTNBKwtZBMHvl?si=85bc9196860e4466 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-startup/id958230465 Follow Harry Stebbings on X: https://twitter.com/HarryStebbings Follow JD on X: https://twitter.com/jgreze Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/contact ----------------------------------------------- #20vc #harrystebbings #ai #founder #town #ceo #instinct #grok #aiassistant

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