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Rutger Bregman is a Dutch historian, author and journalist. He is known for his bestselling books Humankind and Utopia for Realists, and is now on his third book called Moral Ambition. In this episode, Isak talks to Rutger Bregman about questions such as what moral ambition is? Why are young idealists so unambitious? How can idealists become more pragmatic? Why…
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