AI Leaders Can’t Get Along. So How Will They Keep Us Safe? — With Kevin Roose
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Kevin Roose is the author of The AGI Chronicles,. Roose joins Big Technology Podcast to discuss whether an AI industry rife with personal rivalries, infighting, and mistrust can be trusted to develop technology more powerful than humans. Tune in to hear why Roose emerged from years of reporting inside OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google DeepMind more concerned about AI safety, why he believes the industry should slow down, and what happens if AI systems begin improving themselves. We also cover Sam Altman's leadership style, Dario Amodei's motivations, Sergey Brin's return to Google, Microsoft's AI missteps, and the behind-the-scenes drama of OpenAI's boardroom coup. Hit play for an inside look at the personalities, power struggles, and technological breakthroughs shaping the race to superintelligence. Chapters: 00:00 Can We Trust AI Leaders to Keep Us Safe? 06:50 Should AI Development Slow Down? 13:46 Sergey Brin's Return to Google 19:55 Is AI the Most Important Technology Ever? 25:22 Sam Altman vs. Demis Hassabis 30:30 Inside Dario Amodei's Mind 34:36 The Breakthrough That Changed AI 39:35 Alexander Wang Almost Ran OpenAI 42:02 How Microsoft Fumbled Its AI Lead 52:35 Why OpenAI Keeps Winning 56:27 The Dangers of AI Improving Itself --- Enjoying Big Technology Podcast? Please rate us five stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ in your podcast app of choice. Want a discount for Big Technology on Substack + Discord? Here’s 25% off for the first year: https://www.bigtechnology.com/subscribe?coupon=0843016b
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